During my recent series of debates with fundamentalist Christians I was sent various information which claimed to support the Christian belief system. Much of this consisted of alleged facts which showed the accuracy of the Bible. Of course they weren’t facts at all as was easy to demonstrate to those who sent them. But other messages consisted of more theological material and that was more difficult to dismiss.
I wondered why that was the case. Why are religious claims so much more difficult to refute? Then it came to me, while listening to a podcast by a cultural anthropologist actually. He claimed that most theological discussion is meaningless. Its devoid of any real information and is really no more useful than just random noise.
This makes sense of course. Its hard to argue against something which has no meaning. So I emailed the person back and asked them to explain what the material meant by putting it into their own words. I wasn’t surprised when I got no reply. Sure its possible that the person was just too busy (although he replied about other topics) or didn’t respond for some other reason, but I think it was because he also realised the original material was pure nonsense.
Here’s an example of what I mean: “The truth of Christianity has significance quantumly beyond the car engine analogy, however. Christian philosopher Peter Kreeft affirms, “the point of Christianity is the living Christ. He is not an ancient ideal but a real person here and now, ready to barge in and transform our lives… The love of God is the answers not only to (1) the quest for the supreme value… and to (2) the quest for the supreme reality… but it is also the answer to the third quest, the quest for life’s deepest meaning and purpose.”
What does “quantumly beyond” mean? A quantum is the smallest possible unit so does that mean its the smallest amount beyond the analogy? I don’t think that’s quite what they had in mind! And what exactly is this “living Christ”? We have an upper case “C” there so I guess we are talking about the most well-known Christ, Jesus, but what do they mean by “living”? I thought the whole point was that he wasn’t with us right now. And the “love of God” is [sic] the answers to the quest for supreme value and supreme reality”. What does that mean? What is supreme reality? is that some sort of religious reality (which, in fact, isn’t real at all?) No wonder the person I questioned on this didn’t bother answering. He’s probably trying to figure it out too!
A common excuse for this sort of dilemma is that theological discussions are in a “higher realm” than the more mundane matters most of us deal with but I disagree. It seems to me that is just an excuse for the lack of real content in this type of religious discussion. People give up trying to find a meaning and blame themselves for not being capable of finding it but its not their fault at all because there’s just no real meaning there to start with.
So from now on when I am presented with this sort of gobbledegook I’m just going to demand that the person presenting it simplifies it and puts it in their own words. If they can do it that’s fine, maybe I will discover some hidden meaning, but I suspect that, like what happened this time, I’ll continue to be disappointed!
Everything About Nothing
December 10, 2009 by ojb42The Universe seems to be getting darker. By dark here I mean more mysterious and less well understood. Of course the fact that we now realise how little we know is itself progress because knowing 90% about 10% of the universe is actually better than knowing 80% about it all – but not even realising that what you think is everything is really just a small part.
If my statement above is confusing, here is an explanation of what I mean. When I first started my interest in astronomy we thought that we understood most of the material in the universe. Although there was a problem with missing mass going back many years it wasn’t considered likely to be the source of new forms of matter or fundamentally new phenomena.
Then it became apparent that there was a lot of extra mass which influenced other “normal” mass gravitationally but wasn’t detectable any other way. That was known as dark matter and we still aren’t sure exactly what it is even though it makes up about a quarter of the total mass/energy of the universe.
That was bad. Really bad. But since then its got a lot worse! More recently it was discovered that the expansion rate of the universe is increasing and this is attributed to a phenomenon called “dark energy”. This seems to currently make up about 70% of the mass of the universe. Do some maths and you’ll see that only leaves about 5% which is the material (atoms, photons, etc) which we do understand (well mostly understand anyway because there are plenty of mysteries regarding even these).
But wait, there’s more. The latest weird discovery is something called “dark flow”. This was first discovered last year and supported by a bigger study this year. The two studies showed that clusters of galaxies (with 800 in the first and 1400 in the second) are all moving in one particular direction in the sky.
So what’s going on here? From a situation where the universe was just quietly getting on with its steady expansion (which itself is an idea less than 100 years old because before that it was assumed the universe was static) we now have mysterious mass concentrations, something weird causing accelerated expansion, and huge areas of space moving because of some unknown effect. If it wasn’t so weird and interesting it would be very frustrating!
There is one thing I should emphasise here before finishing. These admitted deficiencies in cosmological understanding should not be used as a reason to believe pseudoscientific, supernatural, or new-age alternatives. Knowing enough about reality to realise that there is a lot more to learn is infinitely better than knowing so little that you don’t even know how ignorant you are.
I’ve had believers in non-scientific theories say that these gaps in understanding somehow support their ideas of gods, spirits or mysterious psychic forces. They don’t. Science dares to make predictions which can be easily checked and that’s why these mysteries become apparent. Alternative world views, like religion, are so amorphous that they can’t be tested so their deficiencies never become apparent.
Going back to my comparison of numbers at the start of this entry. Astronomers used to know almost everything about what they knew existed. Unfortunately there turned out to be a lot more that they didn’t even know existed. Maybe science knows a lot about only a small part of the universe but that’s a lot better than knowing everything about nothing!
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